>Arguing with a semi-literate idiot is useless. The gorcery shops followed suit. the spirit of caste arrogance, exclusiveness and superiority came to dominate it instead of the spirit of duty, and the change weakened the nation and helped to reduce us to our present condition…(India’s Rebirth, p 27) Today, the abuses being done in the name of caste are often horrifying, specially to a Westerner brought up on more egalitarian values. gobshite, […] Ergonomics is employed to fulfill the two goals of health and productivity. The caste system grew progressively more strict until finally you were born into your caste and could not move or marry out of your caste. Note that the mantra does not say that Brahmin “takes birth” from mouth…It says Brahmin “is” mouth. Shudra or Labor force form the legs that lay the foundation and make the body run. I am an alumnus of IIT-IIM and hence try to find my humble ways to repay for the most wonderful educational experience that my nation gifted me with. Thus in common usage, we call even different communities as different ‘Jaati’. I am very happy that being a dumb idiot I am discussing about vedas with a Ghana patha like yourself. Video : Purusha Suktam recitation by my Whatsapp Veda Learner Shravanthi. Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high. People with different occupation to do different services (or job) is required in the Society, without this society cannot run so 4 classifications are made according to one’s Aptitude/skills & Work but not based on Birth. Even today, we can’t have a society without these four pillars. So every human can perform Vedic rites. Python replied that he was a yaksha. but this is not related to Caste. Our telling “go back to the basics of Vedas” and dr. zakir naik’s telling his followers “go back to the basics of quran” are as far apart as cheese and chalk. He gave me a Logical example for this 3 generation. Hope, after his ‘Ghar Vapasee’ he brings back all those people whom he got converted into other faiths due to his lack of knowledge on vedic texts. A parallel system of categorization based on the degree of acculturation to Hispanic culture, which distinguished between gente de razón (Hispanics) and gente sin razón (non-acculturated natives), concurrently existed and worked together with the idea of casta.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casta The European word Caste and its hereditary connotations came to be associated only after the Portuguese and English colonized parts of India 300 years ago or so and projected “Casta” on to Varna and Jati. They are doing their duty for which they get money from their Arab Masters. Duryodhana had confidence to challenge Pandavas only because Karna was on his side. But if you want to turn this into an Advaita/Dvaita/Visishtadvaita debate, may I suggest looking elsewhere on the web? Purusha Sukta of the Rig Veda similarly mentions the birth of four varnas from the different parts of Brahman (God); brahmana was born from His (Brahman’s) face, kshatriya from the shoulders, from the thigh vaisya and from the feet sudra. In this connection it would be revealing to quote the per capita income of various communities as stated by the Karnataka finance minister in the state assembly: Christians Rs 1,562, Vokkaligas Rs 914, Muslims Rs 794, Scheduled castes Rs 680, Scheduled Tribes Rs 577 and Brahmins Rs 537. Come on, This whole article is a pathetic attempt to elevate religious documents. So this classification for each person became difficult. It is today the basis of affirmative action programmes in India. However that also does not imply that we start accepting unverified theories in our curriculum. Where the mind is led forward by Thee Into ever-widening thought and action. That means Brahmins also are not fallowing the true Vedas and thats why today those people should not be considered even as Hindus. Unless you link anything with original purpose, there can be no solution to any problem. But if this is not end of file, then what modern generation is doing is largely utter foolishness compared to the first generation. And hence study of Vedas becomes necessary. SIMPLE LOGIC WILL EXPOSE THE HINDU CASTE SYSTEM PROPAGANDA OF CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM/COMMUNIST. However the truth is that, all the three mean completely different things. until Islamic invasion, girls were also going to school. Here one thing I would like to mention- Hinduism & India are made for each other.Brahmins, Shudras ………. Summary : Reproduced below is one of the most authentic discussion on 'caste' system. One needs to discard such verses. And if they can, even the Brahmans who are concerned purely with Vedic wisdom should be easily able to reach enlightenment. Dear Agniveer, Then What about Manusmrithi????? Nitya naimittikaadiini karmaani Kurvanthiiti Braahmana, or For-example, there was “Bhardwaj rishi” on whose name Bhardwaj gotra stands etc. Caste system in Rig Veda forms the main distinguishing feature of the Hindu society. It was more fluid. My question is for Agniveer who I think has the capacity to understand it ? 2. 2. sir even i had the same notion of varna..now jaati. You neednt worry about which caste you want to convert into. Aryan and Dravidian are both terms coined by British and they were originally terms to categorize languages not races. Give equal right to Sudras. i respect my religion, and believe that our civilization used to be really great. Krishna and Rama were great people who had many divine qualities that inspire and motivate we all, but they had many weaknesses as well that must be criticized severely. I appeal all Hindu (followers of vedic dharma) readers and authors of Agniveer to support the campaign of inter-caste marraige. The basis of current religion being propagated as Hinduism is “follow snippets from history at expense of reason’. @D.Tushaar : Actually the word “Caste” is no where in the indian scriptures. But ism is something like, manager son is also manager, director son is also director etc.. 'jaati paddati' was there but not 'jaateeyate' (jaateeyate is casteism in kannada). What is important is the format in which Hinduism is being followed practically. for the varna system read Satyarth prakash by Swami dayanand. Or that only engineers get to build your home when you get one constructed? But you clearly show that you lack understanding of Sanskrit and you all ideas are based on English translation. It may also mean the offering (dakshina) to Guru by the disciples; Upastavam means living with Guru; Damam is physical and mental self control through a life of penance; Sraddha – the desire for knowledge; Samprasna –clarification of doubts from Guru; Anaakiikaranam – not imparting the acquired knowledge to unqualified people; Yoga means living in constant thought of the acquired knowledge. The bride had the right to choose anybody, even if he didn’t hit the target, and reject somebody even if he hit the target due to personal reasons, even if that was against Dharma. don’t know why but may b to mislead peaple. Discrimination is wrong weather it was base on birth wise or profession wise. Ones caste will be same as his ancestors only if he is doing the same work and he has same Gunas as his ancestors. of different shades and hues to be able to hone this quality. In the said Chapter, it is said that, Adi Purusha offered himself to the Yajna, and his mouth became Brahmins, Hands became Khatriyas, similarly feet became Shudras. If that was the case, would you suggest equal pay for the scientist and the garbage collector? The question is whether or not Vedic Dharma (since Hindusim isn't an acceptable term) an open or closed system. Though I do not have an answer to how Parashurama could have taken a vow that required the breach of Vedic tenets (that all human beings should be treated as equal irrespective of their birth), I would assume that individual teachers had the discretion to determine whom they would teach and whom they could refuse. Matter of principle, would you object to the atman, where ever there is no system. Completely as per Bhagvat, Agniveshya became Brahmin though born to Brahmins to migrate to towns leading spatial... May we all be first convinced that the Vedas say not Pandavas and karnas mother punished for criminal! 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